The rot sets in as ‘Pagans for Christ’ Ex-witch missionaries split down the middle!
Befuddled Ex- witches in a muddle?
You betcha!
The rot sets in as ‘Pagans for Christ’ Ex-witch
missionaries split down the middle!
Leading Ex-witch site moderator breaks ranks and claims that the Ex-witch Mission to Pagans
ministry is ‘corrupt’ and uses ‘false representation’!
Oh dear, all is not well in the fervent ranks of the anti-occultist missionaries
it would seem. Don’t laugh folks but now even the holier-than- thou
fundie factions (that have arrogantly told us witches and Pagans that we are at
worst satanically – influenced or at least spiritually misguided) are resorting
to absurd name-calling, legal threats and claims of ‘Heresy’ against EACH OTHER!
Furthermore, even the plastic PF -type Christo/Pagan interfaith lobby is
apparently now at last beginning to realise that it was wholly WRONG to support
such missionary groups as Ex-witch.
For some time now PAN has in good faith warned all occultists about the spectre of
Ex-witch, a
US-based evangelical website crusade designed to win Pagans for Christ. PAN has
provided NUMEROUS links which show that Ex-witch is ingrained with the very same
ethos that led to SRAM cases world wide.
Well now folks we have to tell you that these worrying zealots are actually ripping each
other to shreds behind the scenes.
Jean-Luc deVere runs
‘Ex-witch Australia’
and was a former
moderator at the forums of the US-based 'Ex-Witch Ministries' run by the
evangelist Kathi Sharpe. Unhappily for Sharpe her old chum has now apparently
turned on her like a rabid pit bull and thinks that her band is a……..
“flawed and
unScriptural group”
Jean-Luc deVere goes on to inform us that Sharpe has 'banned' him from her site
and also threatened him with 'legal action'. The funniest thing is that these
sugar and spice and oh so SELF-RIGHTEOUS fundies love to tell us simple heathen
types HOW to run our lives and yet they cannot even 'agree' amongst themselves.
PAN seriously asks:
Can anyone EVER take these confused clowns seriously after this fiasco?
Here below is the transcript (with relevant site link) of Jean-Luc deVere’s
attack on Sharpe’s Ex-witch outfit which will roundly gladden many a ‘true’
Pagan heart and yet at the same time perhaps distress those somewhat 'sensitive'
yet bewildered ‘Xtian witch’ types, that PAN has reported on for so long and at
such great length.
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March 15, 2006:
“G'Day again...
I am constantly being asked "Why do you NOT provide links to Kathi Sharpe's US
based 'exWitch Ministries'?" and "Is 'exWitch Australia' a part of 'exWitch
Ministries (USA)?"
The answer is long and involved but I hope that by providing the following link
to a discussion that turned into a rather heated argument with Mark Bishop one
of the Administrators at Kathi Sharpe's above mentioned Ministry will explain
why I will have NOTHING to do with someone I consider to be a "false prophet" as
defined by Scripture and a Ministry whose Admnistration is corrupt and uses
false representation (by claiming to have people on staff who have, like me,
left the Ministry in protest and disgust over the methods used and doctrine
espoused by the 'powers-that-be' there - I understand that the use of such false
representations attempting to give creedence to Ms Sharpe without these
individuals permission is a felony crime (fraud) in the United States - and from
recent contact I have had with them they a certainly less than pleased to see
they are STILL listed as 'Staff' by Ms Sharpe) and that routinely uses threats
of legal action against fellow Christians in direct contravention of the clear
teachings of Scripture (1 Cor. 6:7) to intimidate and silence any criticism of
the above mentioned practices... (see the entry for September 11, 2005 here for
but one example of this)
Here is the
LINK in question...
You will note that I make no bones about the areas - and there were more than a
few - where I was at fault in my dealings with Kathi Sharpe's US based exWitch
Ministries - where I was a Moderator for a time and as such got to see what
REALLY goes on "behind the scenes" - but getting a similar declaration or
admission from the 'powers-that-be' at exWitch Ministries (USA) is like trying
to get blood from a stone...
I hope that after reading the WHOLE of the thread that I have linked to above
people will understand why, while I openly and happily acknowledge that there
are a great number of people who truly love and follow our Lord there - that I
have - to say the least - strong reservations about having ANYTHING to do with
such a flawed and unScriptural group...
Once again... Here is the LINK in question...
...and compare
it with what the 'powers-that-be' at exWitch Ministries (USA) are willing to
tell the members of their own Forum - LINK - Note particularly Kathi Sharpe's
comments... Her 'sugar and spice' 'white wash' comments make no mention of the
fact that I am still banned from her Forum... one that she claims that I am
destined by God to one day be in leadership at that ministry (email on file)...
Just for the record... The last email I recieved from Ms Sharpe was another
threat of legal action... which I have on record should she wish to challenge me
on this... because - frankly - there comes a point where patience ends...
Jesus Himself threw the moneychangers out of the Temple and took on the
Pharisees head to head and warned us that “false Christs and false prophets”
will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 25:24-25; see
also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18)...
I, for one, will have nothing to do with them...
More later...
Jean-Luc deVere “
http://exwitchaustralia.com/index001.html
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Committed Christian, Jean-Luc deVere is undoubtedly NOT a happy bunny with Kathi Sharpe's Ex-witch ministry and in the thread link he mentions (twice) above he states:
"Actually my Pastor says he believes that exWitch Ministries has engaged in (and I quote) "cult-like manipulation" in their treatment of me and others ..."
He also stated:
"I have CONTINUALLY sought the Biblical basis for much that went on at exWitch and met with either stoney silence or foul language from Kathi..."
Whoops - bet that this lot really pleased Mrs Sharpe although we have to sort of say - ‘TOLD YA SO’!
The contorted, sanctimonious and at times openly 'hostile' mindset which
permeates throughout the world of these zealous missionary evangelists to
Paganism is now clearly seen to be what it really is……..
A counterfeit and plainly deceptive attempt to disenfranchise all Pagans and
occultists from their true native spiritual birth right!
A valid response from Kathi Sharpe or............... ???
In the light of fair play PAN even contacted Kathi Sharpe via email (Monday, 10 July 2006) for a response and opportunity to possibly 'correct' these claims that her Ex-witch outreach was corrupt, "unScriptural" or that she was a 'False prophet' etc as apparently alleged by her fellow missionary, Jean-Luc deVere .
This is what we said to her:
"Kathi
I write regarding your recent parting with one of your previous site moderators, ‘Jean-Luc deVere’, who now seems to think you are acting in an “unScriptural” fashion. A PAN researcher has submitted this article (as below) and we would like your comments on it please to perhaps correct and/or illuminate any conclusions before considering publishing it."
Again, in the light of fair play PAN also included a draft of our proposed article to Kathi Sharp for her comments.
This
below is her full and
unedited response to PAN, dated:
Mon,
10 Jul 2006 13:13:34 -0400:
"So essentially, you want me to do the same thing that he's doing? Think about
it. :) Yes, he's prolific in spreading his diatribes all over the web. You can
choose to believe him, if you'd like. The question is this: Have I ever lied to
you? Or have I talked with you straight all along? What do you know of my
character from our extensive discussions?
Kathi"
Kathi Sharpe's ‘only’ evident riposte is to say readers can please themselves if they want to believe the allegations against her and her missionary Ex-witch group - if they want to!
So who do YOU believe?
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Addendum:
Is Jean-Luc deVere the ONLY missionary to express opposition to Kathi
Sharp’s actions? His article below apparently sticks the boot into Sharpe’s
theocratical ribs a little deeper by telling his readers that ‘other’ committed
Christians are equally as repulsed by her behaviour as he is:
“Kathi Sharpe's methods and tactics are certainly NOT the way one would expect
the leader of a reputable Christian Ministry to treat a fellow believer...
especially one that they CLAIM God has destined to one day be in a leadership
position at that self same Ministry now is it? Apparently others on staff at
exWitch don't think so either... On 10/09/05
Julie James (known at
exWitch Forums simply as Jules) asked the following of Kathi... "
"Kathi - stop obssessing and stop it with the
unChristlike threats of legal action. This is no way to treat someone who is
hurting and damaged by things in his past; it's flat contrary to scripture, and
you will be judged more heavily by virtue of your position. Back away from your
temper and go and pray. You have been put in your position by God but you don't
have lifetime tenure. EW is God's ministry not yours and He will remove ANY of
us who gets in the way, and that includes you if you don't act like the leader
He has called you to be and care for the people He brings along. Can He trust
you with them? "
"No reply has been forthcoming...."
Jean-Luc deVere
http://exwitchaustralia.com/index001a.html
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Well there you have it folks what more can we say?
Interfaith bunnies also walking away?
PAN also has to add that the so-called ‘Pagan and Christian Moot’ forum has apparently 'withdrawn' its previous support for Kathi Sharpe’s missionary outfit. See the following link for more on their version of events surrounding the Ex-witch fiasco.
http://paganandchristianmoot.co.uk/pcvbforum/showthread.php?t=3828
Please also check out this page on this issue:
http://www.patregan.freeuk.com/interfaithbunnies_exwitch.htm
Here’s a couple more, rather 'comical', links which seems to show how the current love affair between the missionary Ex-witch factions is developing.
http://exwitchaustralia.blogspot.com/2006/07/txparamedic-and-more-flawed-leadership.html
http://exwitchaustralia.blogspot.com/2006/03/why-i-do-not-support-kathi_114232277194952785.html
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In light of the above, does not something about 'rats' and 'sinking ships' come to mind? Whatever next?
PAN and SAFF have yet again been proved totally correct in our accurate predictions about the dangers posed for naive occultists in liaising with rampant missionaries who 'appear' to want to be the friends of Paganism. We also reiterate, for the thousandth time, that the ludicrous and unworkable PF - style policy of Interfaithing with the forces of fundamentalism is flawed in every way.
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Disclaimer:
PAN realises that the vast majority of Christians are 'not' fundamentalist or evangelical in make up and we only criticise religious extremists who seek to disenfranchise other faiths whilst bolstering their own. PAN does not in any way condone violence against any persons or property and we must state that we have always worked towards a more tolerant and equal society.